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Strong informix DBA needed in the UK
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From: Neil Truby - view profile
Date: Mon, Dec 4 2006 3:07 am
Email: "Neil Truby"


Ardenta is looking for a Technical consultant with at least 5 years'
Informix experience, and excellent UNIX and/or Linux skills, including
installation and configuration. The job will primarily be based at Ardenta
Towers in sunny Sunbury on Thames, South West of London and winner of Time
Out magaizine's award as "London's Most Boring Suburb".

A good university degree or equivalent is highly desirable.


Any database skills in addition to Informix would be considered
advantageous.


Exposure to storage area networks, particularly EMC's, will interest us.


We also require a good understanding of networking, including WAN, LAN, VPN,
SAN.


Ardenta provides IT services and products to organisations that value
high-availability systems, mainly in the UK, some in Europe, some as far
away as the US and Australia. The focus is on providing support and
implementing technical projects for mission-critical systems, and working
with business partners such as IBM to provide new hardware and software. Our
clients range from Musgrave Budgens Londis through BUPA to the BBC and ITV.


No agencies please, and sorry, we cannot sponsor any work permit
applications.


For more details please write to care...@ardenta.com


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From: Neil Truby - view profile
Date: Wed, Dec 6 2006 11:39 pm
Email: "Neil Truby"

still ...


"Neil Truby" wrote in message


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> Ardenta is looking for a Technical consultant with at least 5 years'
> Informix experience, and excellent UNIX and/or Linux skills, including
> installation and configuration. The job will primarily be based at Ardenta
> Towers in sunny Sunbury on Thames, South West of London and winner of Time
> Out magaizine's award as "London's Most Boring Suburb".

> A good university degree or equivalent is highly desirable.


> Any database skills in addition to Informix would be considered
> advantageous.


> Exposure to storage area networks, particularly EMC's, will interest us.


> We also require a good understanding of networking, including WAN, LAN,
> VPN, SAN.


> Ardenta provides IT services and products to organisations that value
> high-availability systems, mainly in the UK, some in Europe, some as far
> away as the US and Australia. The focus is on providing support and
> implementing technical projects for mission-critical systems, and working
> with business partners such as IBM to provide new hardware and software.
> Our clients range from Musgrave Budgens Londis through BUPA to the BBC and
> ITV.


> No agencies please, and sorry, we cannot sponsor any work permit
> applications.


> For more details please write to care...@ardenta.com



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From: Double Echo - view profile
Date: Thurs, Dec 7 2006 5:19 pm
Email: Double Echo

Neil Truby wrote:
> still ...


I'd come over and help, if you'd have me, but you don't sponsor us out-of-towners.

:-)


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From: Ian Michael Gumby - view profile
Date: Thurs, Dec 7 2006 5:42 pm
Email: "Ian Michael Gumby"

Yeah

Thats a bit of a rub.


If you're local to the EU, you can work anywhere in the EU.


So the hiring goes, local country, EU, then maybe non-EU.


So in effect, the hurdle of using a US based resource got a tad harder in
the UK.
(Unless you can show that you have a special skill that they couldn't find
in the UK/EU world.)


Besides, even with the devalued Dollar to the pound/euro, we're still too
expensive. ;-)



>Neil Truby wrote:
> > still ...


>I'd come over and help, if you'd have me, but you don't sponsor us
>out-of-towners.


>:-)


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>Informix-l...@iiug.org
>http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list



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From: Captain Pedantic - view profile
Date: Thurs, Dec 7 2006 7:38 pm
Email: "Captain Pedantic"

"Ian Michael Gumby" wrote in message
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> Yeah

> Thats a bit of a rub.


> If you're local to the EU, you can work anywhere in the EU.


> So the hiring goes, local country, EU, .



There's no distinction at all between UK and EU citizens. Each is equally
entitled to work here, and in fact it's probably against the law to
discriminate in favour of UK citizens at the expense of other EU ones.

This has led to an influx of Eastern Europeans, mainly Poles, since the
accession of those countries to the EU. They have come in in quantites far
greater than our incompetent government predicted - 15,000 were expected in
the 2 years after 2004 whereas 600,000 have actually arrived. So far this
has been generally perceived as a Good Thing: Poles are hard-working,
diligent, and have taken a lot of jobs such as cleaning, plumbing and
construction in which there was previously a shortage.


However some more countries are joining the EU soon, amongst them Romania
(which I'm sure was called Rumania when I was young) and Bulgaria, and the
tabloid press are concerned that a) another wave of immigrants will arrive
and we will be unable to assimilate them in our small country, already the
most densely-populated in Europe and b) these countries are assocaited with
organised crime. Our apology for a Home Secretary has made some
tough-sounding announcements about restircting the right of these people to
settle and work in the UK, but these "restrictions" are widely held to be
unenforcable (not to mention the blatant inequity of restircting access on
the grounds on national stereotype!).



>> ... then maybe non-EU


The governing Labour Party here is historically linked to the interests of
the workers, and therefore has in the past been hostile to business.
However, Tony Blair's Offend-No-One "New" Labour has cosied up to business
in a big way. But only to Big Business. Consequently the likes of
Accenture, EDS, Siemens and indeed IBM have been able to convince the
government that there is a shortage of IT skills in the UK, which means that
multi-nationals are allowed to ship non-EU citizen employees into the UK
almost without restriction, in the process of course undermining the
smaller, indigenous supplier and individual. Funnily enough almost all
these Skills Transfer incomers come from low-wage economies rather than, for
example, the US ...


> Besides, even with the devalued Dollar to the pound/euro, we're still too
> expensive. ;-)


Really? There was recently a 4GL programmer job on the board in St Louis or
somewhere else I'd never heard of, paying US$60-70k. At today's exchange
rate that's about £30k, which doesn't seem at all uncompetitive to me.

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From: Double Echo - view profile
Date: Thurs, Dec 7 2006 7:52 pm
Email: Double Echo



Ian Michael Gumby wrote:
> Yeah

> Thats a bit of a rub.



The original post mentioned that they don't sponsor people, so
that would include me. It wasn't meant as a rub, simply an
unfortunate situation that the only way I would be able to work
in the UK _is_ on a sponsored visa. I thought of it more as a
working vacation from the US.

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From: Double Echo - view profile
Date: Thurs, Dec 7 2006 8:09 pm
Email: Double Echo



Captain Pedantic wrote:
> "Ian Michael Gumby" wrote in message
> news:mailman.481.1165506409.29126.informix-list@iiug.org...
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>> Besides, even with the devalued Dollar to the pound/euro, we're still too
>> expensive. ;-)

> Really? There was recently a 4GL programmer job on the board in St Louis or
> somewhere else I'd never heard of, paying US$60-70k. At today's exchange
> rate that's about £30k, which doesn't seem at all uncompetitive to me.



I would expect a 4GL programmer to easily double that as a contractor
here in the US. Even back in the 1990's you could easily get $50/hr USD
for 4GL programming if not more than that, which on a 2000 hour work year
translates into $100,000 USD. Today I'd expect because of the shortage of
Informix people that you could easily jack it up to $70 or $80 USD per hour.
Not that anyone would want to program 4GL anymore, but I'm sure because it's
legacy, it's probably going to get a good billable rate now, kinda like
COBOL did for Y2K. I would even imagine there are guy/gals doing 4GL now
getting even more money, probably +$100/hr. If they aren't well, they
should be. :-)

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From: bozon - view profile
Date: Thurs, Dec 7 2006 8:17 pm
Email: "bozon"

My wife is pushing me to find something international. I think she
intends to come with me, but now that I think about it she hasn't
actually said that. ;-)


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Double Echo wrote:
> Ian Michael Gumby wrote:
> > Yeah

> > Thats a bit of a rub.


> The original post mentioned that they don't sponsor people, so
> that would include me. It wasn't meant as a rub, simply an
> unfortunate situation that the only way I would be able to work
> in the UK _is_ on a sponsored visa. I thought of it more as a
> working vacation from the US.



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From: Jean Georges Perrin - view profile
Date: Thurs, Dec 7 2006 10:22 pm
Email: "Jean Georges Perrin"


> So in effect, the hurdle of using a US based resource got a tad harder in
> the UK.


Is CDI US? Come on! Next you'll tell us that Al Gore invented the
Internet...


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: informix-list-boun...@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-
> boun...@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Ian Michael Gumby
> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 16:43
> To: informix-l...@iiug.org
> Subject: Re: Strong informix DBA needed in the UK

> Yeah


> Thats a bit of a rub.


> If you're local to the EU, you can work anywhere in the EU.


> So the hiring goes, local country, EU, then maybe non-EU.


> So in effect, the hurdle of using a US based resource got a tad harder in
> the UK.
> (Unless you can show that you have a special skill that they couldn't find
> in the UK/EU world.)


> Besides, even with the devalued Dollar to the pound/euro, we're still too
> expensive. ;-)


> >Neil Truby wrote:
> > > still ...


> >I'd come over and help, if you'd have me, but you don't sponsor us
> >out-of-towners.


> >:-)


> >_______________________________________________
> >Informix-list mailing list
> >Informix-l...@iiug.org
> >http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list


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From: bozon - view profile
Date: Thurs, Dec 7 2006 10:43 pm
Email: "bozon"

When he said "resource," he meant human resource.


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Jean Georges Perrin wrote:
> > So in effect, the hurdle of using a US based resource got a tad harder in
> > the UK.

> Is CDI US? Come on! Next you'll tell us that Al Gore invented the
> Internet...


> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: informix-list-boun...@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-
> > boun...@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Ian Michael Gumby
> > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 16:43
> > To: informix-l...@iiug.org
> > Subject: Re: Strong informix DBA needed in the UK


> > Yeah


> > Thats a bit of a rub.


> > If you're local to the EU, you can work anywhere in the EU.


> > So the hiring goes, local country, EU, then maybe non-EU.


> > So in effect, the hurdle of using a US based resource got a tad harder in
> > the UK.
> > (Unless you can show that you have a special skill that they couldn't find
> > in the UK/EU world.)


> > Besides, even with the devalued Dollar to the pound/euro, we're still too
> > expensive. ;-)


> > >Neil Truby wrote:
> > > > still ...


> > >I'd come over and help, if you'd have me, but you don't sponsor us
> > >out-of-towners.


> > >:-)


> > >_______________________________________________
> > >Informix-list mailing list
> > >Informix-l...@iiug.org
> > >http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list


> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Get free, personalized commercial-free online radio with MSN Radio powered
> > by Pandora http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001


> > _______________________________________________
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